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Template talk:Vehicles

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Template redesign

This template has changed little since the site was founded, and I feel the number of pages it's collected has grown to the point that it's due for an overhaul. My ideas:

  • "Superweapon" has no agreed-upon definition, and indeed there are many fictional weapons in the current template outside of that category. A name like "Vehicles, Weapons, and Devices" might be better.
  • The biggest structural change I propose is that we divide the whole template between fictional things and real things; each of these overarching sections would be collapsible. Most of the fictional things we cover are pure sci-fi, but more mundane craft like the USS Saratoga and Shinseimaru would also go in that section.
  • Within those two sections would be subsections for aircraft, land vehicles, water vehicles, and other weapons & devices. The fictional section would also have alien and spaceship subsections. (A page on the Apollo spacecraft is possible, but doesn't exist yet.)

Thoughts?--Astounding Beyond Belief (talk) 00:53, 8 February 2026 (UTC)

Seconding the idea of properly defining what counts as a superweapon. In real life, the term is a synonym for weapons of mass destruction, but it seems that on this template, what counts as a superweapon is taken very broadly to just mean "a super weapon" (note the space) meaning "a really powerful/high tech armed vehicle/weapon". If we go off the description of superweapons as WMDs, then here's a handful of examples of stuff that fits the bill:
Toho weapons
Weapons from other franchises
Wikipedia has a useful section defining the term and explaining what counts on their article for WMDs.--Koopa (Roar to me | Contribs) 02:35, 8 February 2026 (UTC)
honestly not a bad idea, I've just been trying to add all the missing ones to the template that haven't yet. I think I got them all but apologies if I've been screwing up what goes where, trying to be logical about it.--el spigre (talk) 2:42, 8 February 2026 (UTC)
A WMD section would be helpful, agreed.--Astounding Beyond Belief (talk) 12:23, 9 March 2026 (UTC)
I think the overhaul's a great idea, but I have a few concerns about the particulars.
  1. I don't think splitting the entire thing into just two sections (real and fictional) is the best way to go about it. In order to make the best use of the collapsible dividers, I think there should be many small sections instead of two huge ones. It means that there won't be a wall of links displayed at the bottom of a given page, only the ones that are most relevant to it. The alternative I propose is making the aircraft, spacecraft, etc. sections be their own dividers and each will have real and fictional rows therein.
  2. We should hammer out exactly what all the sections of the template will be and what they'll be called. Two rows that exist right now whose phrasing I find problematic are "land vehicles" and "water vehicles," which do not seem to account for terrestrial or aquatic devices that don't transport things (like stationary weapons or the Mini-SGS). It sounds like ABB's idea was for only vehicles to be broken down elementally and everything else to be one miscellaneous section ("other weapons & devices"), but personally I'd prefer that everything go by element where possible. I also think it's a bit weird to have a section just called "alien," as if alien devices are disqualified from being aquatic, aerial, etc. We should either specify on each of the rest that they're "human" (which could be a bit clunky), have an alien subsection in each of the larger sections, or get rid of the separation entirely.
  3. I dislike Koopa's suggestion of making a section for WMDs. Many entries in such a section would already apply to the different elemental sections; for example, like he even pointed out, the Dimension Tide and Soviet Nuclear Attack Satellite are more recognizably spacecraft, and it would be weird to exclude them from that section in favor of a WMD one. The Potaedong missile also comes to mind, as it could easily be considered an aerial craft. I don't think it makes a lot of sense to go over and against those categories just to group things together that are extra deadly—a distinction I don't think most people will consider (and might find actively frustrating) when looking for a page.
--Les (main | talk) 03:55, 10 March 2026 (UTC)
I'm realizing that the United Earth tech would complicate any human/alien divisions, so yeah, it'd be best not to have any. Aquatic, aerial, and terrestrial all seem like fine section names, and how about "spacefaring" to round it off? I'd also like sections for handheld weapons (could eventually be split between ranged and melee) and handheld devices... and a miscellaneous section seems unavoidable.--Astounding Beyond Belief (talk) 04:25, 10 March 2026 (UTC)
Looks solid to me - Something I've come to realise that's in line with the above are that there are definitely quite a few special cases to work with here! The collapsible dividers idea sounds great too, since even after the redesign, this template's going to have a lot of links, so the option to show or hide stuff would be very beneficial.--Koopa (Roar to me | Contribs) 14:18, 10 March 2026 (UTC)

I've started a draft for the new template here. I have a few thoughts, but first and foremost:

  • I deleted all redlinks and Project T from the template. I could see that mind control tiara Miki wore having its own page, but as it stands the page is about the operation in general.
  • While it would be best to continue listing pages about fictional things in release order, I think the real vehicles etc. should instead be arranged in the order they entered service. They're unbound by continuities and our records on their appearances are far from complete, so we'd likely have to constantly be changing the order otherwise. The release order approach also leads to oddities like the Shinden coming after the F-35.--Astounding Beyond Belief (talk) 17:00, 11 March 2026 (UTC)
New version at the same link, to be implemented imminently. Additional changes: a subsection for stationary terrestrial weapons, folding personal weapons and devices into one section, arranging real vehicles chronologically.--Astounding Beyond Belief (talk) 22:08, 14 March 2026 (UTC)
The new Vehicles template is now live. Note that, as with Template:Real People and Template:Actors, it's possible to have one section of the template automatically open, e.g. {{Vehicles|tab=Aquatic}}. You can just put the name of the section in most cases, while "personal devices" is shortened to "personal".--Astounding Beyond Belief (talk) 14:16, 15 March 2026 (UTC)

My suggestion

Since it's been a while since the suggestion of a reorganisation/redesign has been made, I'd like to raise the suggestion that, in addition to the Superweapons section being completely overhauled, we should add a Stationary weapons section to the template; this would include the weapons from the franchise which are neither attached to or part of a vehicle, as well as those that aren't handheld weapons. Examples include (but are not limited to) the Markalite Cannon, M6000 T.C. System, Artificial Lightning Generator, Giant Electrode, Giant Parabolic Mirror, City Defense Missile System, and so on. Thoughts? --Koopa (Roar to me | Contribs) 10:43, 9 March 2026 (UTC)

Markalites have treads, but otherwise, makes sense to me.--Astounding Beyond Belief (talk) 12:11, 9 March 2026 (UTC)
Oh yeah, completely forgot, my bad :) --Koopa (Roar to me | Contribs) 13:11, 9 March 2026 (UTC)

G54 ships

Can an administrator please remove the Bingo-Maru after Eiko-Maru on the template, Thanks. - Kaiju No. 14 (talk) 8:43, 9 September 2021 (UTC)

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