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More information about the KG reverts

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Summary by GojiraBoy1000 T

No further debate. Controversy burnt out for some time.

BioRobot2002 (talkcontribs)

I feel like you’re either not understanding me or dismissing what I have to say.

To put it simply: KG doesn’t care about people aside from religion. Why would he? He wants them to help him eat their planets, that is all (he is titled, “the planet eater”, after all). This is what I constitute as “religious communication”— He is only providing them information in the interest of advancing this sole desire, and has no use for humans outside of that. Please, name something that the Exif or Ghidorah do that doesn’t boil down to “So Ghidorah can eat their planets.”

Garbetrium bead? Only so he can become corporal and eat the planet.

Gematron calculation? In the interest of advancing their religion & arriving to new planets so that they can convert the inhabitants… and Ghidorah can eventually eat them.

That weird water thing Metphies did to his followers? Ghidorah ate them in that scene.

A religious leader would be someone who leads others to “salvation”, yet is not worshipped themselves, like Mother A from Escape the Deadzone. She gives sermons and tells her followers what to do, but they don’t worship her. Ultimately, the god is Godzilla, and she wouldn’t be under the same banner as Ghidorah because she is not the people’s god.

On the other hand, most of the Exifs have no desire to do anything other than be religious. In the United Earth Significant Report on Exif, they are literally trying to convert the researches as they are talking to them, using their advanced technology to spout why their religion is so great and why the researches should convert to it. Obeying what he says is part of their worship, not aside from it. This is why the leader description (for Ghidorah) falls under what it means to be a god.

GojiraBoy1000 T (talkcontribs)

You do realize that this doesn’t go against what I’ve been saying, right? We’re on the same page.

BioRobot2002 (talkcontribs)

No, we clearly are not, seeing as how you want the “leader” category, and I think it is unnecessary. It’s got no reason to be there if all the leading is under the typical “god” category.

GojiraBoy1000 T (talkcontribs)

I see. So the problem on our hands is that Void Ghidorah qualifies for both categories but we can’t list both on account of the fact that “monster leader” discounts “god” qualifiers?

BioRobot2002 (talkcontribs)

Yes, but the opposite way around. If he’s a god, that kind of implies that he’s leading some sort of religion, and the leader category is therefore unnecessary, because he already has the god one.

(And while it’s true that some gods don’t act on their followers, doing so in this way is an extension of being a god, not a leadership position on its own.)

GojiraBoy1000 T (talkcontribs)

Being a god has nothing to do with leading a religion/cult. Gods are served and appealed to by their followers. It’s not the same as say being a king or a political authority figure. Gods are invested with faith and worship. They play no actual role in religions because religions exist in their image and by their associated ideals.